Greetings, Program! Welcome to Tron Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Vancouver page.
I've seen a lot of the pages you've made, and judging by them, you know a lot about the toys. Yep, on the weekends, I frequent Target so for... research. They have a lot of information about these individual toys on Amazon.com. Clu-2's epic! GO CASTOR! CRAY-DAIMON CRAY 02:54, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
- I'm definitely not an expert but I'm a big toy fan :) --Scottlukaswilliams 03:18, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
- Toy page feedback: You're doing some interesting work there with those toy pages. There is however a very strong focus on the toy packaging. What I think would be better for those pages is one front image and a back image of the packaging - they could even be edited together to form a single image - and one or two images of the toy itself. -- WarBlade 18:59, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! The camera I have currently isn't good enough to capture images of the toys that are of decent quality. That's why I've started with the packages. I hope to eventually add more of the toys themselves.--Scottlukaswilliams 19:12, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
- That's a shame. Perhaps there are official images that we could get away with using under "fair use". Let's assume we can get such images and move on to the topic of how these toys are presented on pages. At the moment you've put an idea up and 'stubbed' it for further development. That's a good start, but the pages are still pretty bare bones until they've been fleshed out. Do you have a design idea? -- WarBlade 04:36, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Not really. I suppose someone who's more savvy than I could create an infobox for the toys; that we we can keep all of the articles consistent. --Scottlukaswilliams 23:56, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
(ri)Well, Yeah. That's one option. I have some ideas/suggestions, but there are a couple of you developing those pages, so I thought I'd hold off for a bit and see what you come up with first.
- Firstly, the infobox. There is not a lot of information surrounding the toys, so I'm guessing that an infobox will completely dominate most of the articles, with a sentence or two looking lonely on the left. That could be an incentive to fill space with a toy review, but I don't know if going down that road would be a good idea or not. The advantage to an infobox is it's site-wide consistency.
- A second idea would be to consider how little there is to document after the images show the subject and actually group the toys into group articles, eg. "Core Figures, Wave 1", "Core Figures, Wave 2" etc. and have up to about 10 toys documented per page. Then you could expand the infobox idea and have them set up large boxes in the middle, stacked on top of one another (intro, box, space, box, space, box) or perhaps side by side in pairs down the page. This might suit the way toys can be presented, but carries the disadvantage of diverging from the rest of the pages here.
- Third option. Stick with basic wiki formatting and standardise a structure like subheadings and blocks of information. Simple, effective, and keeps things fully under the control of people who don't quite feel ready to tinker with infoboxes or tables.
I can help out with getting infoboxes working, but I'm otherwise planning on spectating. Does any of those points sound like a direction you want to try (or avoid)? -- WarBlade 01:08, January 19, 2011 (UTC)
- I think a combination of your options 1. and 3. sounds best to me. I like the idea of using infoboxes for consistency; perhaps something like the ones being used on the Category:Games pages. You're correct that the toy articles will be fairly brief so it may be best to separate them into subheadings. As the toys become more popular and more people make updates I can envision a few subheadings like Instructions, Variants/International Editions, Errors/Problems, etc. --Scottlukaswilliams 13:06, January 19, 2011 (UTC)
- Okay... finally revisiting this after that whopping great edit marathon to change Tron (film) to TRON! xD So, you like the infoboxes, but want to keep things as stripped down as possible. Here's a mock up I can suggest for you that throws all notions of templates out the window and should be a simple matter to use and update as needed.
- Display base
- Identity Disc
- Battery-powered lights
- Quorra is a loyal and trusted associate to Kevin Flynn. Her intelligence, ingenuity, and prowess in battle make her an invaluable aide. She pilots the Light Runner, one of the few vehicles able to go off Grid.
- The nowiki tags are just there to stop the Real World template and TOC disable from performing their function, but the RW and NOTOC should be unchained in the articles themselves. The upper right image is just a standard old thumbnail - with an uncarded toy in there you can preserve some of the look of having an infobox in the corner without actually worrying about any infobox formatting. I recommend keeping the number of packaging images to a minimum and realistically the gallery should remain quite small as a result.
- So how does that look to you? -- WarBlade 04:14, January 28, 2011 (UTC)
- It has been a few days. I'm just popping in to let you know we have a new contributor making toy articles and the results could benefit from a few repairs. :D -- WarBlade 05:00, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
- Hey There! Yes, I'm sorry I've been very busy in the Real World! I really like the idea of an infobox so the site stays consistent. I've created one based on the headings you've suggested. What do you think? Template:Toy Infobox. I've applied it to the Black Guard Core Figure so you can see what it looks like. --Scottlukaswilliams 14:10, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
- I know you're not keen on having a lot of gallery images so now I've added two images to the infobox so one can be in package and one loose. Is that OK? --Scottlukaswilliams 14:52, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
- I've made a quick little modification without really changing the result much. You'll notice the parameters that appear on the pages have been cut down slightly and all rendered in lower case. This is just for consistency (An old version of the weapon infobox had an upper/lower case mix and seems to have caused confusion). One thing I think I might still remove is the bottom image. Currently, the mentions of this have been removed from the list, but the parameter still works if you add an "imageb". Basically the infobox is going to get very long if that is used, and will leave a lot of empty space on the left. I think I might squash the infobox up a little and set up a gallery below the text to handle one or two images. PS. Top image "imagea" is now just "image". -- WarBlade 20:04, February 1, 2011 (UTC)