Talk: Kevin Flynn

Great write up.  Where are all the dates from?  I should rewatch the movie, but I don't remember any being mentioned. --[[User:RedKnight|RedKnight]] 01:01, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

== Oh my God, they killed KEVIN! ==

You bastards!!! [[User:Doug Exeter|Doug Exeter]] 05:18, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

I sort of noticed that. YAY! Clu-2's epic! GO CASTOR! CRAY-DAIMON CRAY 13:41, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

:No! Flynn lives! He is the creator, is he not? [[User:Jeyo|Jeyo]] 19:17, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

::His digital representation got blasted to pixels. There might be a resurrection story later, but... he's less than a smear for the moment. -- [[User:WarBlade|WarBlade]] 22:07, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

::Are you sure Kevin Flynn's alive? Try watching the movie again and try to skip to 1hr and 02 min right after a brief verbal father and son quarrel, Sam asked Quorra why his father afraid of his own creation and why he can't end him. This is Quorra's reply:
::"He could but it would require integration. Flynn would never survive the event. It would mean the end of them both."
::It would be safe to say he's dead for now, unless if the director decides to bring Kevin back to life in the sequel (The Call of Duty franchise have a nasty habit of bringing logically dead characters to life without explanation)... [[User:Triadwarfare|Triadwarfare]] 15:25, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

== Kevin Flynn saved on a backup disk? ==

I noticed that Sam FLynn had a small disk (UMD) on a chain that he puts around his neck at the end of the movie (just before he leaves the acrade with Quorra). Could this be a backup of his father Kevin Flynn (he had his father's disk to escape the Grid)? Or did he just backup the Grid itself? [[User:Collis68|Collis68]] 09:58, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

:Many people are saying it's a Grid backup. Maybe, but the thing I spotted straight off was that Sam was in possession of Kevin's identity disc when he left the system. Given that everything about a program can be stored on those things (including the entirety of Quorra), my guess is that the disc and the portable drive will provide explanations for how to bring the elder back. -- [[User:WarBlade|WarBlade]] 10:24, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
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:The last time a copy of Kevin Flynn was made he ended up as a jerk besides did kevin Flynn bought any life insurance because Sam Flynn would have to pay the insurance company back lots of money ( I know sam is rich) and possibly sue them for insurance fraud. I remeber at the end it look like Kevin Flynn and Clu turn into "digital dust". Can he come back from all of that ""digital dust"? [[User:Blix1ms0ns|Blix1ms0ns]] 02:02, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
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:If the Grid is backed up there, that would mean Kevin Flynn would be on it because he "reintegrated" with the Grid, absorbing all the Grid in himself. We'll just have to wait for the next movie. [[Special:Contributions/76.109.186.61|76.109.186.61]] 17:09, February 5, 2011 (UTC)


==Age Discussion==

About the age, I read somewhere 1 gregorian year is about 50 cycles. Clu-2's epic! GO CASTOR! CRAY-DAIMON CRAY 23:30, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

:A recent addition to the Cycle article claims that this information came from a TRON: Legacy tie-in magazine. -- [[User:WarBlade|WarBlade]] 04:14, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

I would say the Age area could really use some cleaning up. It looks like there is quite a bit of rambling, which I didn't touch. However I did delete: (kept here for records)

:"especially when considering that Flynn and Clu were not always adversarial and so there would have been an unknown period of time during the creation of the Grid for which one must account."

The problem being, when Flynn and Clu become adversarial, Flynn can no longer make it to the portal. Before that Clu and Flynn simply weren't fighting and time didn't need to be tracked for age purposes since Flynn could and did leave the grid at any time he wished. 

Time for this discussion effectively starts when Flynn can no longer get out, which means the 'adversary' part is in full swing. [[User:Zigguratei|Zigguratei]] 00:03, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

== kevin flynn is not gone ==

kevin flynn is not gone for good it's is unknown what happened to him after that.

reintergration - is to derez a program without a user been destroyed.

deceased - is a person's death in the real world without reintergrating.

kevin flynn is maybe still alive.

No, Kevin is gone for good. Disney killed him in a way that makes any chance of return absolutely impossible. [[User:Doug Exeter|Doug Exeter]] 08:47, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

you stupid idiot, you never know about it {{unsigned|Shadaloo2000}}

Look. No need to be insulting, I'm just not getting my hopes up. If you assume the worst case scenario, it helps blunt the dissapointment if it actually happens. Hoping just sets you up for a potential dissapointment [[User:Doug Exeter|Doug Exeter]] 06:33, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'd predict that "Flynn Lives". It's certainly possible that his 'essence' was spread through out the grid when reintergration happened and the movie, Tron 3 will be Sam trying to put his dad back together again from various 'code fragments' and find what happened to Tron. It seems to me that it'd be a bit more difficult to destroy 'the man that knocks on the sky'. No need to get nasty about it though. That said, speculation is just that. So if it happens the way I think, yay for me. Otherwise, who cares? [[User:Zigguratei|Zigguratei]] 23:56, January 22, 2012 (UTC)



From page 146 of the [https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tron-legacy-complete-story/id409027895?mt=8 Tron : Legacy The Complete Story]  ipad app:

: "Later, back in the basement of Flynn’s arcade, Sam transferred the digital world of the grid onto a small flash drive. With the transfer complete, Sam shut down the desk console computer. Sam didn’t know if his father survived the reintegration, but Flynn would always be near Sam’s heart, literally. "

The text says Flynn surives, but it dosen't say exactly how or in what terms. [[User:NoNamePaper|NoNamePaper]] ([[User talk:NoNamePaper|talk]]) 01:02, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

==I don't think Flynn is dead==
Matter cannot be created or destroyed, just changed from one form to another.  Water converts to steam or ice when heated or cooled, skin becomes dust when it dries out, sand becomes glass when heated.  Even in TRON, you re converted into data, and even on a computer, data is not destroyed, just changed into emoty data.  Flynn may not have been "destroyed" per se, just changed into smaller data bits.  Just a thought. [[User:SwordoftheSpirit|SwordoftheSpirit]] ([[User talk:SwordoftheSpirit|talk]]) 03:58, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

What source said that Flynn was born in 1940? The original script? I remember hearing that Flynn was to be in his mid- to late 20's while Bruce Boxleitner's character was described being in his 30's. (Ironically Bruce is a year younger than Bridges.) If Flynn was born in 1940, that would make him 39 when he graduated CalTech and 42 in the original Tron....isn't that a bit too old? He looks a lot more youthful than that (Not that those ages are bad, just a bit erroneous for the character.) In real life Jeff Bridges was 32 in the film, and another wikia article I saw before said that Flynnwas born in the late 40's, which isn't too far off, considering Jeff Bridges was born in December of 1949, making him 32 due to the film being produced and released before his birthday. 

== How old is Flynn in the original film? ==

<span style="color:rgb(176,176,176);">What source said that Flynn was born in 1940? The original script? I remember hearing that Flynn was to be in his mid- to late 20's while Bruce Boxleitner's character was described being in his 30's. (Ironically Bruce is a year younger than Bridges.) If Flynn was born in 1940, that would make him 39 when he graduated CalTech and 42 in the original Tron....isn't that a bit too old? He looks a lot more youthful than that (Not that those ages are bad, just a bit erroneous for the character.) In real life Jeff Bridges was 32 in the film, and another wikia article I saw before said that Flynnwas born in the late 40's, which isn't too far off, considering Jeff Bridges was born in December of 1949, making him 32 due to the film being produced and released before his birthday. </span>

== Not Canon section? ==

Under the Tron: Betrayal section of this article, there's a break stating '''The following information is not canon.''', but no end-point specified for this 'non-canon'. I realize TRON 2.0 is in direct conflict with all Legacy-related materials, so should this 'non-canon' divider set be allocated to the TRON 2.0 section or everything from Betrayal onward, as seems to be the implication as-is?

Otherwise, I'd suggest placing an 'end of non-canon' or such break where appropriate, and move the 'following information is not canon' break if necessary. [[Special:Contributions/69.140.50.55|69.140.50.55]] 04:45, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

:There has been some discussion about canonicity with the non-movie entries. ''TRON: Betrayal'' and ''TRON: Evolution'' are a little awkward in that they strive to fill moments of history between ''TRON'' and ''TRON: Legacy'', yet tend to introduce contradictions. -- [[User:WarBlade|WarBlade]] ([[User talk:WarBlade|talk]]) 11:03, January 14, 2014 (UTC)